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	<title>Comments on: Collaborative Project Spaces: My place or yours?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/20/collaborative-project-spaces-my-place-or-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-1640</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts, Gina.  I&#039;ve just &lt;a href=&quot;http://gminks.edublogs.org/2008/10/22/the-cost-of-supporting-collaborative-project-spaces/#comment-151&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posted a reply here&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll try and elaborate on it more here when I get some time.

Cheers,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts, Gina.  I&#8217;ve just <a href="http://gminks.edublogs.org/2008/10/22/the-cost-of-supporting-collaborative-project-spaces/#comment-151" rel="nofollow">posted a reply here</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try and elaborate on it more here when I get some time.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: gminks</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/20/collaborative-project-spaces-my-place-or-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>gminks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment got too long - I posted a response &lt;a href=&quot;http://gminks.edublogs.org/2008/10/22/the-cost-of-supporting-collaborative-project-spaces/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment got too long &#8211; I posted a response <a href="http://gminks.edublogs.org/2008/10/22/the-cost-of-supporting-collaborative-project-spaces/" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: The cost of supporting Collaborative Project Spaces &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/20/collaborative-project-spaces-my-place-or-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>The cost of supporting Collaborative Project Spaces &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one of Mike Bogle&#8217;s posts the topics of learning ecosystems and &#8220;walled gardens&#8221; comes up. The main idea I took [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of Mike Bogle&#8217;s posts the topics of learning ecosystems and &#8220;walled gardens&#8221; comes up. The main idea I took [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/20/collaborative-project-spaces-my-place-or-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David!

I started responding to your comments here, but they quickly evolved into something larger that I decided warranted a post in their own right.  This is available here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://techticker.net/2008/10/21/the-institution-and-the-pln&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
The Institution and the PLN&lt;/a&gt;

Cheers,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David!</p>
<p>I started responding to your comments here, but they quickly evolved into something larger that I decided warranted a post in their own right.  This is available here: <a href="http://techticker.net/2008/10/21/the-institution-and-the-pln" rel="nofollow"><br />
The Institution and the PLN</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: David Elliott</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/20/collaborative-project-spaces-my-place-or-yours/comment-page-1/#comment-1628</link>
		<dc:creator>David Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps collaboration needs to be connected to some grouping or institution? A good friend of mine, Justin Hardman from Hong Kong,(http://blueprint-blog.com/) and I were discussing the tension between VLE&#039;s and Personal Learning Networks.
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 &quot;Interesting debate; I think there is value in both. It strikes me that a person that has a well formed personal learning network is far better situated to be a life long learner, as this is something that follows them wherever they go - from formal as well as informal environments. Thus I think a core mission of a school in this day an age is a responsibility to help students cultivate personal learning networks so that their learning is not tied to the institution. While the student is attached to the institution I would think a core component of their PLE would be the institutions web tools (VLE, research tools, etc - afterall why else are they part of the school?  for its resources/facilities both physical and virtual). This pushes us to ask the question - how does the world of PLE change VLEs? I think it pushes us to make them as &quot;open&quot; as possible in terms of flat in structure as well as interoperable so students and teachers can move seamlessly between them and their wider personal learning network.&quot;
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How can we bring institutions back into the Connectivism picture as foci of collaboration within the larger PLN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps collaboration needs to be connected to some grouping or institution? A good friend of mine, Justin Hardman from Hong Kong,(http://blueprint-blog.com/) and I were discussing the tension between VLE&#8217;s and Personal Learning Networks.<br />
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 &#8220;Interesting debate; I think there is value in both. It strikes me that a person that has a well formed personal learning network is far better situated to be a life long learner, as this is something that follows them wherever they go &#8211; from formal as well as informal environments. Thus I think a core mission of a school in this day an age is a responsibility to help students cultivate personal learning networks so that their learning is not tied to the institution. While the student is attached to the institution I would think a core component of their PLE would be the institutions web tools (VLE, research tools, etc &#8211; afterall why else are they part of the school?  for its resources/facilities both physical and virtual). This pushes us to ask the question &#8211; how does the world of PLE change VLEs? I think it pushes us to make them as &#8220;open&#8221; as possible in terms of flat in structure as well as interoperable so students and teachers can move seamlessly between them and their wider personal learning network.&#8221;<br />
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<p>How can we bring institutions back into the Connectivism picture as foci of collaboration within the larger PLN?</p>
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