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	<title>Comments on: My Position on Connectivism</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/02/my-position-on-connectivism/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joost,

I think you&#039;re quite right.  In many ways it&#039;s only natural that educators immediately look to the practical application of a theory within their specific context - this goes for everyone in fact, not just educators.  At the same time I think it&#039;s important to avoid this leading to subjectivity, where the validity of a concept is directly related to whether it holds up within one&#039;s context.  This constrains the scope and scale of the discussion.  

Furthermore, studies like yours and others seem to be suggesting 2 important ideas:

a) the learning experiences - and arguably preferences - of new students are not limited to the classroom; 
b) their learning styles are not necessarily consistent with standing beliefs and/or assumptions that provide the basis for much of the structuring of formal education.

This seems to point to a reality in which, like it or not, students are doing things their own way.  It would seem logical then that in order to begin to better understand how new ways of learning are occurring - and thus realise effective ways to nurture and empower new learners - we need to look past long-standing structures inherent in formal education.

Rather than equating &quot;learning&quot; to &quot;school&quot;, and couching the discussion in this specific context, we need to equate &quot;learning&quot; to &quot;learning&quot; and leave the discussion open to all forms that it may take.  Otherwise by insisting all learning theories conform to existing structures, learning will become dependent on - or constrained by - external forces.

Cheers,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joost,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re quite right.  In many ways it&#8217;s only natural that educators immediately look to the practical application of a theory within their specific context &#8211; this goes for everyone in fact, not just educators.  At the same time I think it&#8217;s important to avoid this leading to subjectivity, where the validity of a concept is directly related to whether it holds up within one&#8217;s context.  This constrains the scope and scale of the discussion.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, studies like yours and others seem to be suggesting 2 important ideas:</p>
<p>a) the learning experiences &#8211; and arguably preferences &#8211; of new students are not limited to the classroom;<br />
b) their learning styles are not necessarily consistent with standing beliefs and/or assumptions that provide the basis for much of the structuring of formal education.</p>
<p>This seems to point to a reality in which, like it or not, students are doing things their own way.  It would seem logical then that in order to begin to better understand how new ways of learning are occurring &#8211; and thus realise effective ways to nurture and empower new learners &#8211; we need to look past long-standing structures inherent in formal education.</p>
<p>Rather than equating &#8220;learning&#8221; to &#8220;school&#8221;, and couching the discussion in this specific context, we need to equate &#8220;learning&#8221; to &#8220;learning&#8221; and leave the discussion open to all forms that it may take.  Otherwise by insisting all learning theories conform to existing structures, learning will become dependent on &#8211; or constrained by &#8211; external forces.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Joost Robben</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/02/my-position-on-connectivism/comment-page-1/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>Joost Robben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mike, great to see that you&#039;ve got to finish the paper eventually. Throughout the course I can a lot of emphasis laid on whether connectivism is a learning theory or not, if it is new or not. And maybe we should better focus on understanding what George and Stephen message is. One way, off course, doing that is to connect their arguments with frameworks your familiar with and thus compare with other learning theories for example. What george and stephen allready have established is that we are now more and more broadly discussing learning in a digital age. And i think its valid to have that discussion as we see changes in society that may or may not have been, lets say &quot;enhanced&quot; through our use of web-technologies. 
For me i&#039;m still struggling with some of the arguments that are made. eg what does it really mean to establish &quot;neural, conceptual, or external connections to nodes within or across networks&quot;??? 

Cheers, Joost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mike, great to see that you&#8217;ve got to finish the paper eventually. Throughout the course I can a lot of emphasis laid on whether connectivism is a learning theory or not, if it is new or not. And maybe we should better focus on understanding what George and Stephen message is. One way, off course, doing that is to connect their arguments with frameworks your familiar with and thus compare with other learning theories for example. What george and stephen allready have established is that we are now more and more broadly discussing learning in a digital age. And i think its valid to have that discussion as we see changes in society that may or may not have been, lets say &#8220;enhanced&#8221; through our use of web-technologies.<br />
For me i&#8217;m still struggling with some of the arguments that are made. eg what does it really mean to establish &#8220;neural, conceptual, or external connections to nodes within or across networks&#8221;??? </p>
<p>Cheers, Joost</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Connectivism &#171; On the run</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connectivism &#171; On the run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Linda Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am struggling with why connectivism is any different than learning theories that for instance talk about knowledge schemata and the links made between information in the mind of the learner (Constructivism I presume). The idea of networks of learners has always been with us; we now have more tools to enable technological happenings and far greater sophistication. I guess I am wondering if the underlying premise of learning has changed. The 5 points made above are not new apart from number 5. Any light on this would eb greatly appreciated and thanks for your summary.</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Stewart</title>
		<link>http://techticker.net/2008/10/02/my-position-on-connectivism/comment-page-1/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Mike, you&#039;ve contributed hugely over the last couple of weeks to my understanding of connectivism - thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Mike, you&#8217;ve contributed hugely over the last couple of weeks to my understanding of connectivism &#8211; thank you very much.</p>
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